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  • I think all of these problems could be solved for me by one hardware change - give the MacBook a touch screen and I'll just use that. Maybe in another 10 years there will be parity with an iPad, but all I'm missing on the MacBook is touch capability.
  • The Mac is a superior device for most of what you mentioned. The biggest mistake Apple could make with the iPad is to focus its energies on making it more like a laptop. There's still so much they can to do to perfect the touch experience (multitasking is also high on my list) the iPad was made for.
    FYI - 'reverse-letterboxing' is called pillar-boxing.
  • Pressing and holding an app icon in the dock and then dragging/dropping it to create a second window for multitasking is 'clunky'?
  • Not a 'Pro' feature at all, but related to the 'Apple Watch integration' theme: LET ME SEE MY HEALTH AND WORKOUT DATA ON MY iPAD!
  • Yeah I would call it very clunky. The multitasking definitely needs to be more intuitive, and easier to do.
    Definitely a more robust file management system that works seamlessly with MS servers on a network, even remotely. That makes it easy to open a file from whatever application I choose, and yes, that includes media files. And sharing between apps needs simplification.
    the print function needs to increase markedly in functionality.
    they are the biggest issues software wise for me, and it is software.
    on the hardware front I am pretty happy, a second port would be great I suppose.
  • I'd like to see Xcode (maybe fully Swift Package Manager based), better multi-tasking, and better external display support that takes advantage of the cursor. The changes last year with real keyboard and cursor support make this compelling for mobile development with a real touch screen for testing. The iPad Pro is ready to take on more that was traditionally for a full computer. I hate having an iPad hanging off my computer when working with iOS development. I'd rather just do it all on the iPad.
    I don't hate the multi-tasking on the iPad, but there should be some new multi-tasking features that are exclusively for iPads that have an attached keyboard and trackpad. Ideally somewhat Mac like for muscle memory.
    edited April 6
  • Full Featured, Robust Pro Apps.not watered down snippets. and a comprehensive, consistent file sys across the board.
  • This has been the iPad story for years now--overachieving hardware matched to an underachieving OS. Does anyone really believe Cupertino is unable to write iPadOS code that would allow for the improvements noted in this article? Simply stated, Apple doesn't want its customers choosing between a laptop and an iPad--to the degree that customers can afford it, Apple wants them to buy both. And the lack of or kludgy implementation of some basic functionality that this article covers is evidence of that strategy.
    I have no doubt that whenever the new iPad Pro is rolled out, we're in for more of the same: headlines devoted to the hardware revisions with a few footnotes about changes in iPadOS.
    edited April 6
  • This is a tough one because what constitutes 'Pro' is as varied as the number of iPad users on Earth and what tasks these users perform on an iPad. The importance of product qualities like higher performance, better security, better manageability, better hardware, e.g., ECC memory, chips certified for higher loads or operating at greater thermal ceilings, better environmentals, better shock & vibration, more waterproof, etc., are all subjective based on how the user applies the iPad as a tool to their task. I would say that what is 'Pro' for me are those things that make the iPad more suitable for the work I use it for.
    Things that would make an iPad more 'Pro' for me include:
    - Multiple login support, e.g., multiple users
    - Multiple levels of user credentials, e.g., admin vs user accounts
    - Admin mode access that allows greater control over certain iPadOS features (which ones TBD)
    - User mode access that allows admin to restrict/limit access to certain iPadOS features (which ones TBD)
    - Operating system and app 'rollback to previous version' support
    - On-device scripting/programming with access to key iOS services (which ones TBD)
    - Integrated phone support (full phone functionality, not relayed through iPhone, not WiFi calling)
    - Disk mode (make portion of iPad storage mountable on other iOS, iPadOS, and macOS machines
    edited April 6
  • Not a 'Pro' feature at all, but related to the 'Apple Watch integration' theme: LET ME SEE MY HEALTH AND WORKOUT DATA ON MY iPAD!
    I agree 100%.
    The iPad should be able to function as the primary device the WATCH is connected to.
    If I could set up an WATCH from an iPad I would buy WATCH SE models for my kids. They have had VTech watches for a couple of years but have outgrown them. They don't need cellular watches yet so being able to set up an WATCH from their iPads would be ideal.
  • Here's my wishlist:
    1. More virtual keyboard options. The 4.5 row (I've turn off the half height row on mine) or 5 row software keyboard takes up about half the display. I'd like to see them offer 3 rows, and possibly even 2. They should add meta keys (Command, Option, Control). Offer an ortholinear option. It's an onscreen keyboard. They can do a lot of stuff with it. Like, let people custom configure the layout.
    2. Overlapping applications and windows/documents. Your basic overlapping window UI seen on PC operating systems. Not that useful at small displays sizes, but when connected to an external monitor, and the display is extended, not mirrored, basically mandatory.
    3. iPad as input device. Connect it to an external monitor, and the iPad can be used as a keyboard and trackpad.
    4. Terminal.app, including user-installs of various CLI packages.
    5. Background multitasking. Let apps run in background in perpetuity. This likely necessitates turning on the page file, but it is time.
  • Just have it run macOS and give it an M1 level chip.
    it costs as much as or more than a macbook air, but the air has more ram and storage. The ipad has a better screen and cameras. Aside from that, what difference is there really? macOs is the better OS.
  • An iMac, IPadPro and Watch setup that just worked together like a seamless computing environment would be killer for me.

    What would really make that combo sing would be to remake the case for the Airpods so in the event of a quick call you can use the case as phone handset instead of putting in one of the buds. Like a lip stick case sized item, twist and it extends the pod out and lets you put it in your ear oned handed.
    Software wise iPad has never lived up to the potential of the device. Yes dropping MacOS wouldn't be good move either but it should be a Laptop replacement for many users by now, especially those who do have a desktop for grunt. The compromise in terms of productivity should just be the natural one of screen size.
  • Lots of good suggestions here.
    It sounds like what is being asked is growing iPadOS to be more like macOS. Or are we basically asking for a version of macOS that is designed for touch?
  • Lots of good suggestions here.
    It sounds like what is being asked is growing iPadOS to be more like macOS. Or are we basically asking for a version of macOS that is designed for touch?

    I think so. I think Apple should be to the point in say 3 to 5 years serious people are asking if macOS should stay given how much iPadOS nips at it's heels.
    The answer should still be no but the question should be serious.
  • Let's not go overboard. If you need a Mac, buy one. Improvements for iPad that really matter:
    - scribble and handwriting recognition improvements
    - manage contact groups
    - better compatibility of Safari with full-featured application websites, starting with this forum, which doesn't post properly on iPad mini 5
    - add a new gesture or two so that you don't need a mouse ever
    - get Microsoft to put an actual charting feature set in the currently hobbled Excel
    - video streaming apps to not go to sleep with device lock timeout
    - fix TV app so it stops complaining about external monitors that supposedly don't have DRM rights
    edited April 7
  • Dual OS. When connecting the iPad to an external monitor, switch from iOS to macOS.
    The hardware is capable of it, and Apple has already developed both operating systems. Why not make the hardware run both then?
    Maybe even offer me a choice to switch to macOS, the moment I connect a mouse, for that's the moment I start to use a pointer device made for macOS in the first place.
    (I posted this idea to Apple's feedback web page too)
  • 16 core graphics chip. 2 thunderbolt controllers. 2 usb-c ports with thunderbolt 4/usb 4 capable of using hubs.
  • Apologies, for the repost but this is the biggest issue for me;
    Apple's cloud-first approach for iPadOS/iOS devices and low storage for affordable Macs keeps throwing up storage-related problems. It's hard to edit video/work with large amounts of data on iPads as there's no localisation control and re-downloading movie clips from iCloud libraries takes forever. Non-upgradable storage on Macs has us running for external drives (not great for portability). iCloud (or other cloud) Drive/Libraries logically solves both issues but performance is a problem and, as nobody would spend hundreds of dollars on a cloud caching box that does nothing else, the solution needs to be baked into something else, something static, like HomePod, AppleTV, a smart display or even a slightly re-tasked Time Capsule/Airport Extreme+HDD. macOS has been content caching for some time;
    https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204675
    https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mac-help/mchl9388ba1b/mac
    .but a caching server (a multi-terabyte mac mini with fully localised libraries) is beyond the consumer mindset/budget. So the software is there - we just need the functionality added to other devices.
    Along with some localisation controls (file-pinning) this caching is essential for most Apple devices to do anything useful. Or am I just rambling?
  • What would you like to see?

    When this generation launches, there's probably gonna be absolutely zero technical barriers to pull up Mac OS on an iPad Pro when needed or preferred. Perhaps it's a mess, and nobody wants it. and it's dumb. but the 'pro' camp might find it useful.
    I'm a musician, and I would certainly love the iPad Pro Form factor with full fledged music apps, and full fledged support for audio interfaces etc. After all. I 'love' my iPad Pro, while my MacBook Pro, honestly, is just a tool for me. I don't love it. I need it.
    If the home directory was shared between the operating systems, something worked on in a 'Final Cut Touch' or 'First Cut Pro' for iPad, could be finished in Mac OS full fledged Final Cut Pro. X-code could be running in Mac OS mode, and builds sent to iPad mode for testing.
    Also. Like Mac OS has the 'Catalyst' framework to help get iPad apps to Mac, a reversed 'Catalyst' for getting Mac apps to iPad OS should also be in place.
    I wanna 'love' my Mac again. Haven't been feeling it since the Touchbar + flat keyboards to be honest. Big Sur and the newer less flat keyboards is onto something though. Slowly getting the love back, I hope.




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